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Apparently, there was a bank near the ditch that appeared to have been slicked down and cleaned off to the point that there was no grass or leaves at all in that one area. My belief is that these items were used in the clean up. How about his fucking alibi, oh wait, the dudehe claimed him as an alibi thinks he did it. I've no doubt he killed Stevie to "get even" with Pam. Even if he maybe didn't intend to kill him, I'm sure he started to beat him and his rage just got the best of him and there was no turning back. The darkest shit about all of this, is that they sensationalized this case as some bullshit Satanic fantasy. and all of it just covers up the sobering truth: this kind of child murder happens every day. When Aaron Hutchinson spoke about the clubhouse, he referenced the boards numerous times. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three. Then Vicki cuts him off and says he means "sex". He walked into the restaurant and went directly to the payphone. Doesn't make sense how they disappeared, then got back in there without a soul seeing them. That leaves many years unaccounted for. Anyone who has owned a dog, knows how dogs will lick blood clean in a matter of minutes. I think its open to interpretation. Hair found at . As CrimeOnline previously reported, Damien Echols, along with friends Jason Baldwin and Jesse Misskelly, were convicted of murder in 1994, in connection with the murders of Chris Byers, Michael Moore, and Steven. Jackie Jr. survived the shooting, but died years later as a result of complications pertaining to his injuries. To me, this shows that Michael was not conscious or struggling when he was stripped naked and because of that, his clothes were more gently removed. They both have bias, so I think its important to keep that in mind. Jacoby is adamant to anyone who listens that Hobbs is not his friend. Narlene interjected herself all over this case. THEY UM. One of the most vital components of this theory is whether LG and Buddy had alibis for this night. The question whether the mark on Stevies left eyebrow is a bite mark or not has been the subject of great debate by experts and followers of the case for years. Terry Wayne Hobbs was born on May 21st, 1958. To add further suspicion, LGs cousin, Domini lived within a five minute walk from Richards house. Further, there is some belief that part of the injury to Stevies penis was also a bitemark. Additionally, a bite on the face during murders/attacks is not only common in homosexual attacks, like a bite to the scrotum is, but it also common in Battered Child Syndrome. Who fed Stevie if not Terry? RIDGE: ABOUT TIME WAS IT YOU WENT TO TRY AND GO TO THE CLUB HOUSE? This is so hugely significant and yet lost on so many. (Interestingly, Chris was referred to as the 3rd child in the alleged confessions. VICKIE: ANY TIME MY CHILD DIDNT COME HOME ON TIME THATS WHERE I WOULD LOOK FOR HIMRIDGE: OKAY, YOU HAD BEEN THERE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS? Terry claims that he dropped Amanda off with Bobby, Davids wife and that he and David then scoured the neighborhood looking for Stevie, which makes no sense. When Terry arrived at Pams work, he did something very peculiar. VICKIE: HE STAYED. 9pm the night of the 5th so we need to theorize what may have happened because he has no alibi. Due to the fact that the three were so severely injured, a weapon had to have been used at some point. AARON: I THINK THEY WENT DOWN THERE. It means its likely that he never went home. I personally could argue that the three are guilty based on the research I've done, but I could also argue that Terry Hobbs is. The only reason one could think that someone would make the concerted, and possibly dangerous, effort to take the bikes up to the bayou to be submerged, was to give themselves time to create an alibi. 9 Q. It was only then that Jacoby publicly admitted that Hobbs had left for two hours that night. According to Terrys ex wife, Terry Hobbs first wife had claimed in their divorce papers that he molested their son. UNLESS YOU KNOW NOT GETTING UP THERE AND LOOKING AT IT ALL. The day after the boys went missing before they were even found, Michael Moore's parents asked Aaron's mother, Vickie Hutchinson, if Aaron could be removed from school to help find the boys. Allegedly, some children who used to play in those woods have claimed that stray dogs lived there (source). Either the perps knew the possibility of the bodies floating with time, or, the area where the bodies could be dropped in was not deep enough to completely hide them. And the family even admitted that he was making Stevie participate in these acts of abuse against his sister. A year or so after Buddy admitted to Bennie of his involvement, he also allegedly confessed to Billy Stewart and described to him what happened. When Jessie was fully investigated by police, it never once came up that Jessie was with Buddy that night. evil" when he loses his temper and "he doesn't get mad, he gets 'even'". And even if he did work the day of the 5th, its the late afternoon/night that is important. The photo on the left is Stevies bitemark and the photos on the right are other known bitemarks. Whats more suspicious, is that Buddy originally told police that he was with his family barbecuing on the 5th but when his mother spoke to Fogelman, she never mentions anything about Buddy being home with her that night. If we have actualevidencethat the attacker did in fact bite Stevie in the face, then it is not a stretch of the imagination to think that the same attacker would also bite another child during the attack. Whats equally puzzling is the fact that almost nothing about the two mens alibis is the same, yet they both claim to have been with each other. WE ALWAYS GOT A PLACE TO HIDE BEFORE THEY CAN GET THERERIDGE: WHERE DID YOU HIDE?AARON: WE HIDE ONE TIME WE HIDE BEHIND UM A TREE. Buddy allegedly confessed that when the four returned to the truck, Terry and David looked to the teens and promised to kill them if they ever spoke of the crime to anyone. Terry Hobbs would later state that he shot Jackie Jr. in self-defense. What stands out to me, is that no one has ever suggested before that the injury to Chris began as a bite. Have you ever been called the Queer Pepsi 0. art mollen md age. This theory supportsbothsides of the debate. http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/21810828/new-allegations-surface-in-the-west-memphis-3-murders. ALRIGHT DID CHRIS AND MICHAEL DID THEY TELL YOU THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD GOT CAUGHT. RIDGE YOU DIDNT GO OVER THERE THAT DAY? When he was finished with that, I believe he then turned to Stevie. It wasnt until the following day when clothes began to emerge from the water, that police found the bodies. He also claimed that Jessie said he had punched a couple in the back of the head. She described all three of on them on bicycles although they were only on two. In the south in the 90s, the community of dick-havers who are into dick will come from all walks of life and have all sorts of jobs. Who would have fed Stevie vegetables if not his own parents? Sometime right after 5:30, according to the Byers, Chris took off again from his house. According to Billy Stewarts statement, he believes that at this time some sexual activity occurred between the men and two teens. She claimed to have seen the three eight year old boys when she dropped LG off, but it was a very shaky sighting. In Terry Hobbs daughters own diary she talks about having dreams about having sex with her dad and that she is sure that he didnt molest her from age 15 years old to 19. The question about Terry propositioning David Jacoby has lead some people to defend Jacoby, claiming that he would not have told people he was propositioned if he really had a secret gay relationship with Terry Hobbs. After he removed his clothes, he ripped out one shoelace from Michaels shoe and cut it in half with his knife. (Another theory is that the injury to Stevies penis came from oral sex. Lastly, even David Jacoby, friend to Terry Hobbs, testified that when Terry arrived at his home at 5:30, he asked Terry where Stevie was. VICKIE: ANY TIME MY CHILD DIDNT COME HOME ON TIME THATS WHERE I WOULD LOOK FOR HIM, RIDGE: OKAY, YOU HAD BEEN THERE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS? Anyway, some things the autopsy reports show us.. ~Chris was alive when he was being tied up. Not only did Terry whip Stevie for not listening, but Pam was strict as well. RIDGE OKAY, SO WHEN BUDDY TELLS US THAT HE BELIEVES THAT THE DATE ON THE 5TH THAT HE WENT OVER THERE WITH YOU, HE DID GO OVER THERE WITH YOU, BUT IT WASNT ON THAT DATE? He was most likely placed near the tree becase one of the perpetrators used the tree as support in order to enter the water. No. HE ALWAYS TELLS THEM WHAT TO DO AND THEY DO IT. Jared: When they [the police] met you at the restaurant, was it just closer to meet you there as opposed to going to the neighborhood?, Hobbs: Thats where we called them from, so we knew they would be coming up somewhere near there.. The hearing was to allow the victim's . I also believe this is why the boys got separated. RIDGE: WHAT DID THE CLUB HOUSE CONSIST OF? Hobbs is . Then, in 2013, Jacoby was summoned to court over the alleged confessions of Buddy Lucas and LG Hollingsworth. In fact, Richard and his roommate both admitted that they didnt even see LG that night. RIDGE: IT IS OKAY, YOUVE BEEN DOWN THERE BEFORE? Now Im back to believing it was TH. Apparently, Stevie had injuries to his penis that he believed were self inflicted. He believed that one of the men told the others what to do, because they always did what he said. Would they have admitted there were car tracks found and helped the defense win their case? Basically, anything that both sides agree with I consider to be a fact because its gone undisputed. Terry Hobbs, the stepfather of another one of the murdered boys. Terry did not tell me who he was calling until hed completed the phone call and came out to the car. 3 A. They are also one of very few people,who hadfamily memberswho suspected that they were involved and actually contacted police as a result of those suspicions. The dynamic between them must have been s fucked up and dark and tense. The West Memphis Three are Damien Echols, Jessie Miskelley, and Jason Baldwin. Its my personal opinion that the evidence presented here should put all debates to rest because both sides have at least some truth in their corner. He did not tell me who he was calling, and he did not tell me that Stevie was missing, Pamela previously told investigators. Terry's guilt or innocence doesn't even cross that 1 cop's mindthe only thing that matters is NOT being discovered for liking dick. AARON: MICHAEL AND CHRIS SAID NOT TO TELL NOBODY. VICKIE: I REALLY COULDNT TELL THAT. Steven Branch had lacerations on his penis which were probably self-inflicted indicating a sexualized child, usually associated with sexual abuse. And, Ill tell you something, I would take up for my kids when Ive known that they have done something, cause aint no telling what they would do. ~Even Peretti agrees that Chris had post mortem wounds in his groin area as well as pre mortem. Because she was lying and both she and LG knew it. Pam concedes on one condition: Stevie must be home by4:30 or he will be grounded from his beloved bike for two weeks. I truly believe the real killer(s) are still out there and it's not the WM3. Additionally, why would LG go down to the Laundromat at approx. This means that the boys had most likely arrived to the Blue Beacon Woods before the four men did, crossing over from the west side of the drainage ditch to the east side of the drainage ditch, on a log that lay across the ditch at the south end. ~Also, during trial, Perreti said about ten times that the weapon was probably a 24. By the time Buddy would have been dropped off at Lakeshore and the other three arrived in West Memphis, it could have been somewhere around 8:15-8:30. AARON: THEY WOULD UM, THEY WOULD WIPE EACH OTHER LIKE UM, LIKE UM, LIKE THEY DID UM TO MICHAEL, CHRIS AND STEVE THEY SAID. For the latest true crime and justice news,subscribe to the Crime Stories with Nancy Grace podcast. RIDGE: OKAY. According to Pams family, Stevie was terrified of Terry. That night and the next morning, families of the missing children with the help of neighbors and police, searched the Robin Hood Hill woods, the Blue Beacon woods and the surrounding areas. The manner in which they were tied also tells us about the crime and the perpetrator(s). Essentially, the statements made by Dr. Perretti are not much different than if Pam took her son to a doctor, had him examined and was then told by the doctor that Stevie had injuries related to sexual abuse. AARON: IT WAS, WHEN EVER WE GOT OUT OF SCHOOL WE WENT THERE ABOUT FOUR, AARON: AND THEY NEVER GOT THERE BEFORE WE DID. It seems extremely unlikely that one person would have been able to do this on their own in such a short period of time. Even Terry said they usually ate dinner before Pam left for work (2). Echols is one of three men found guilty in the brutal murders of three eight-year-old boys in West Memphis in 1993. What this means, is that the injuries to Stevies penis may have been the result of an abuser repeatedly preforming oral sex on him. I personally believe that this boy was Michael Moore. But there also had to be an injury there to begin with. Buddy Lucas lived in Lakeshore Trailerpark in May, 1993. I think those questions have easy answers. And its about time we started putting some pressure on him for some real answers. Sorry in advance to those of you who are tired of reading about this case! In 1993, he was married to Pamela Hobbs and was the step father of Stevie Branch. The figure eight knot is used in conjunction with the Packers Knot; a knot used by butchers when they bind meat. The crime scene, as well as the clubhouse were both located somewhat close to each other on the east side of the drainage ditch. SO WHAT HAPPENED NEXT? Its difficult to know all of Narlenes reasons but I have a feeling about one of them. In the second statement, Narlene describes to police a conversation she had with LG outside of the police station right before a police interview. RIDGE: HAVE YOU BEEN THERE BEFORE? New DNA testing by the defense shows that none of the genetic material recovered from the murder scene links Echols, Baldwin, or Misskelley to the scene. Hobbs was calling loudly at the children and ordering them to return to his house. On the right side, it appeared as if he had been hit with something that was flat. Por - 10 junio 2022. She drove him around that day to help him find a job. I think its likely that Terry took the board with him as well to dispose of later or had it thrown in the bayou. I think we have the answer now; Stevie and Chris appeared to have been tortured because they were the ones who were conscious. D, J, and J's DNA was not. The children never returned home. RIDGE: OKAY. She has since expressed her belief that her ex-husband was involved in the murders, citing the discovery of her son's favorite pocket knife in Terry Hobbs' belongings. David Jacoby, in an effort to catch one of the boys, fell and skinned his knee and also snapped in his frustration and hit one boy. Furthermore, Terry himself claimed to be in those woods all night, up until the early morning. Also, we dont know if the four men were already well acquainted. When the boys bodies were discovered, there were found in the Blue Beacon Woods right next to the alleged clubhouse where the boys played. For years, the stepfather of one of the three children killed in West Memphis, Arkansas, has maintained his innocence, despite public outcry to investigate him. Thats a time bomb. Perhaps Stevie tried to sneak away. I then believe Terry went over to Michaels unconscious body and began to undress him. What is equally disturbing, is that both Domini and Damien had solid alibis for that time period. At the time of the murders, Terry and Pam had a 4-year-old daughter. However, since LG was wearing a tie that day and the alleged confessions state the teens wrestled, its my belief that LGs shirt and tie had been removed for the entire murder, which meant that it was clean. When police asked Dixie if the car that LG was spotted in was Richards, she too, vehemently denied it, stating that she knew Richards yellow car well, and this wasnt it. Its also interesting that Narlene is claiming that Damiens mother is lying about Damien being with her. I believe that David did ask Terry where Stevie was when Terry showed up at 5:30 and that Terry told him the truth: Stevie was riding his bike and would be back by dark (8pm). I wonder if Michael and Chris knew that one of the men was Stevies stepdad and that is the reason they never told Stevie what they saw in those woods. Remember that LGs own mother was looking for him that night, despite the claim that he was allegedly dropped off at her home. You really would need magic to pull it off. Meaning to me that he was the third one caught). (3) She claimed to have seen them near the spot they were murdered somewhere between 6:00 and 6:30. Additionally, there is an ample amount of evidence, in my opinion, that Terry might have sexually abused all of his children. Buddy told them that Billy Stewart was holding weed at that time. I theorize they then cleaned up the blood from Chris injuries by scraping up the mud, grass, leaves and blood and throwing it into the drainage ditch. As Bennies statements suggest, as well the MEs position on Michaels injuries, there is good evidence to suggest that Michael was violently attacked first and then lay unconscious for the rest of the crime. I'm a parent now and that's why this case has been glued in my mind. A Calhoun County man has been missing for weeks now, leaving his family searching for answers. My suspicion is that LGs parents knew he participated in this crime ( I will touch more on this later) and Narlene, being LGs aunt, probably had some limited knowledge of his participation, too. The reason for the prosecutions stance, I believe, is because the bitemark never matched Echols, Baldwin or Misskelley. According to statements, and as noted earlier, after Terry hit the first boy a few times, he stopped long enough to yell at him. I'm sure he got it the worst from Terry, too. However, the police knew LG was lying to them and yet his DNA, hair and prints have presumably never been tested against those found at the scene. In FBI profiler John Douglass' book Law and Disorder, he makes a strong case for Hobbs. However, I dont think it takes an expert to see that the mark above Stevies eye appears to truly be a bite mark. WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY WHEN YOU GOT OUT OF SCHOOL WHAT WAS IT THEY WERE GOING TO DO THAT DAY?AARON: BEFORE THEY DID ANYTHING THEY WENT UP TO MY MAMAS TRUCK AND THEY ASKED HER IF I COULD GO OVER TO MICHAELS HOUSE TO GO UH, GO, GO WITH, GO WITH THEM TO PLAY SOME WHERE THAT WAS WHERE OUR CLUB WASRIDGE: ALRIGHT, YOUVE BEEN TO YOUR CLUB BEFORE WITH THEM?AARON: (inaudible)RIDGE: ALRIGHT. They believed something inappropriate may be going on between the two, who practically lived together. AND I TOLD AARON, ARRON DOESNT KNOW ABOUT SEX AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND ALL THE BOOKS THAT YOUVE SEEN UM HE SAID THAT THEY HAD THEIR PETERS IN EACH OTHERS BUTTS AND SAID THEY WATCHED. I have questions. That makes sense to me. 5 A. I believe that inhismind, the boys deserved what they got because they shouldnt have been spying. SO THIS FRIGHTENED ME, SO I GOT AARON OUT OF THERE AND WE WENT HOME. Did he simply use Jessie as a scapegoat so that he could talk about the details of the murder and get it off his chest? As he jumped up from the fall, he grabbed Chris and apparently hit him with force as well. RIDGE: ALRIGHT. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I believe it is because the truth had finally and for the very first time, been exposed. What was he doing for so many hours in that small patch of woods? RIDGE ALRIGHT, DID SHE KNOW WHERE HE HAD BEEN? The purpose, according to FBI profiler, John Douglas, was to humiliate, demean and control. The kind of men who do these things are, uh. ALRIGHT DID CHRIS AND MICHAEL DID THEY TELL YOU THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD GOT CAUGHT. I have a theory about what weapon it could have been. For some reason, unknown to the public at least, Terry Hobbs was never questioned. Terry Hobbs grew up working for his dad as a butcher; his job was to tie up cattle and hogs, transport them, butcher them and to possible even prepare and bind the meat. They had contusions, which are bruises, which had to have happened before death, on their ears, under eyes, over eyes, on forehead, etc. Crime scene footage of the pile of boards. After yelling and threatening Michael, I believe he took the board from David and violently hit Michael on the top of the head 2 or 3 times. HES NEVER SEEN THEMRIDGE: OH, OKAYAARON: CAUSE IT WAS ON A FRIDAY WHENEVER HE WENT DOWN THERE WITH USRIDGE: DID YOU EVER TELL ANYDODY ABOUT IT?AARON: HU-UH (NO)RIDGE: WHY? I met Terry Hobbs through a mutual friend, Roy Taylor. Additionally, there is an ample amount of evidence, in my opinion, that Terry might have sexually abused all of his children. HES NEVER SEEN THEM, AARON: CAUSE IT WAS ON A FRIDAY WHENEVER HE WENT DOWN THERE WITH US. AARON: UH-UH (NO), BECAUSE THEY NEVER SEEN US. There is more evidence, also, that LG never went home that afternoon. that was a red flag to me, alright. West Memphis Police Officer, Bryn Ridge found Michael Moore first, just south of the crooked tree that juts out from the ground in the photo on the far left. Again, Ill let you decide. THEY WERENT SCARED THAT MAYBE SOMEBODY HAD SEEN THEM IN THERE ONE DAY? TH & DJ supposedly killed the boys so they wouldnt snitch on them. Buddy as well was involved in the investigation and was under suspicion from his family from the beginning. As mentioned earlier, Terry Hobbs, like John Mark Byers before him, was fingered as a suspect in 2012's West of Memphis after a hair found at the crime scene was genetically matched to him. I agree with that assessment but believe there were additional reasons. Additionally, Michael Moore was tied on one side of his body using a somewhat complicated knot, called a Square Knot. Then he changes his story again and said that Narlene did give him a ride home around this time. He is an evil man and true psychopath and the type of man to tie those boys the up the way they were found. No matter whatgreen vegetable Stevie ate, the fact that it was a green vegetable and that it was partially digested shows that Stevie had to have eaten some vegetables sometime between 5:00 and 6:30. subscribe to the Crime Stories with Nancy Grace podcast. Therefore, it was likely that the person who either killed or tied Michael up, was carrying a knife. However, according to Billy, one of the boys kicked Terry after he was caught and brought to him. Is there any possible reason why they wouldnt have stopped? Once Stevie and Chris were naked, both Bennie and Billy claim that Terry approached the boy David had been hitting, told someone to hold his legs and began to bite his scrotum repeatedly and stab at his groin. What other reason could there be? The clubhouse was a spot where Aaron, Chris and Michael would go play in the Blue Beacon Woods. And he said he was out riding his bike that his grand paw had bought him. I allege that the boys were spotted and began to run back towards the log that lay across the drainage ditch. Which means hecouldhave been walking with Buddy right at the time Terry and David would have shown up. My theory is this: Stevie had never seen the men in the woods having sex before. If LG had been dropped off at home at 4:30, surely he would have changed out of his shirt and tie by 9pm. If it wasnt for your choices, this never would have happened!And, the act of tying up the boys, especially the manner in which they were tied up, looked somewhat sexual in nature. Furthermore, the time the boys were seen doing this is also around the time that Aaron Hutchinson claimed they had first seen the men in the woods. According to David Jacoby, he and Terry drove down Barton street searchingfour separate times, passing Michael Moores home each time. The teens wouldnt have minded being asked to wrestle initially and its even likely they would have removed their shirts to do so (especially if LG was wearing a shirt and tie at this time). VICKIE: IT WAS COPSRIDGE: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DEAD ON? Their affidavits can be read here and here.
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